For the first time in the 12 years I've had "Barfield White Climber" last year it set a fair number of hips...maybe 60-70. Seedlings popped up QUICKLY with zero chill time in the fridge. I now have a 3 inch tall seedling topped by a bud!! Will be fun to see if maybe it is a self, or if a bee brought pollen from the nearby 'Seagull', 'Mme. Antoine Mari', "Maggie" or 'Abraham Darby'. Will be interesting to if it too is a rampant prickle-free climber.